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Definitive help for the spring - redmite
Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 22:59
Spring is just around the corner; actually it has arrived in some ways already. I think it would help if we all put in our advice regarding red mite and for the moderator to assemble a heading called solutions or something so that we can all benefit from our combined experiences.
We had a bad case of red mite during the hottest parts of the summer
which went on until the onset of the colder parts of autumn. We dismantled, torched, disinfected, every part of the house and run and dusted the chooks with red mite powder frequently, we did not however seal the cracks in the floor of their run and we think the little nasties were living there, anyone else think we missed the obvious
Does anyone know of a good supplier for decemite near Southampton, Hampshire by the way?
Good luck this spring, I think we are going to need it
Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 23:24
Was think just that today. I had a bad attack in 1 house last year and sprayed it everyday for 2 weeks with Poultry Shield as well as torching and that seemed to do the trick altho I continued to check every day for months.
Im going to creosote all the little unused houses on a dry day so they are ready for mums and chicks later and have the Poultry Shield ready.
I even had some sort of mite on a garden bench last year. They were horrid tiny grey things and you only had to sit on the bench for a few minutes and they were all over you, in our hair and tee shirts covered. The Poultry Shield sorted them out as well :D
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 00:00
This is exactly the kind of information I was talking about as I find it so helpful in trying to put together a plan to stop them from infesting the chooks and spreading to other wooden buildings as I understand that they can live in wood for a very long time without the need to feed. Do you know of a source of real creosote by the way Jan?
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 01:00
Like everyone else - I had a nightmare time with Redmite during the summer. I went down to three eggs a day out of 100 birds and I tried every one of the 'recommended' poultry methods.
In the end I got a pest control guy in and he got them clear within two weeks.
He used Ficam W
http://www.ratbait.co.uk/index.asp?func ... ductid=351
Sounds expensive but worth every penny that I wasted on everything else
(Obviously you don't need the amount in the advert! lol)
After they got clear of them my egg yield went out of control!
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 02:51
(gulp!) £108 for 500g!!
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 15:49
great idea, I am dreading this
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 15:51
chicklet wrote: Do you know of a source of real creosote by the way Jan?
We get it from the agricultural merchants were we buy all our farming supplies. You cant buy it in less than 5gal drums but its different from the stuff in the DIY shops.
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 17:37
I use Ficam W too. I have hesitated to mention it on previous threads because it is very toxic. But it does do the job. I can buy it in individual sachets which allow you to tip it into 5 gallons of water without actually touching the chemical. The sachet costs me about £4.00.
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 18:36
Thanks Kated, do you have a souce for these packets please?
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 19:43
Bowden & Knights
Unit 6, Ironside Way
Hingham Industrial Estate
However I got the quantities wrong
sorry, it makes less than that but I can't remember how much. I know it did all my hen houses (4) and I still had tons left over. It really works well, with no re-occurrence of the mites it the houses for months afterwards.
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 19:56
Update so far, I hope this helps:
1, Biodiversity is the key it seems, we should change the products we use to prevent the mites from becoming immune , however there is a cost factor to consider as most products are expensive to start with.
2, Many of the best products have now been withdrawn for safety reasons (Lets hope that is the real reason and not simply that creosote for example, was just too cheep for the pesticide industry to compete with).
3, Cleanliness is the key, but it must be mite clean rather than just "seen" clean and steam cleaning/blow torching on a one off basis probably wont do it alas.
4, Mixing of non pesticide type products (especially Eco friendly and Organic) would seem to be the best balanced approach, ie "Poultry Shield" followed by "Decemite" and then the birds themselves being fluffed with "Barrier Red Mite Powder". Always read the labels.
5, This is only a start and not a definitive answer, its up to us to provide information on products that we have tested here so that we may all benefit from out joint experience, but we will keep this updated and it will be a useful place to visit (hopefully for prevention rather than cure)
Write soon, write often and never forget why we do this, um Madness is not an option lol.
Best of luck.
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 20:01
6, Lets not forget the tried and tested Ficam W (Again please read the lable first). It clearly works and thanks to Kated, we have a supply in a reasonable quantity at a reasonable price.
Thanks Kated and thanks everyone who has posted here so far.
Together we are going to fight back and give our girls a better summer.
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 20:11
I used the last of my Diatom before leaving the UK. I wish I had bought another large quantity and brought it with me, as I don't think you can get it here.
It was ideal for dusting all over the coop floor after cleaning, into the bedding of the nest boxes, into their pellets for worming, in cat bowls for the same reason and remembering not to put it in Mark's breakfast!
I bought it from here
Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 20:45
Incidentally, I discovered when during a weekend and unable to get Ficam W that for an emergency treatment, 3 in 1 oil seems to kill mites. I have tried WD40 after someone suggested it, but 3 in 1 works better.
Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 01:24
Funnily enough, we didn't get the little blighters last year. :D We had them with a vengeance the year before.
It took us 3 weeks of intensive daily cleaning, dusting the girls, soaking everything with Poultry Shield, blasting the nooks & crannies with a paint stripping gun (we haven't got a blowtorch) & finally we got the Diatom.
We haven't seen any since but are always on the lookout for them. We still dust everything with Diatom as a prevention.