Fox & Crows

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Re: Fox & Crows

Postby georget » 18 Jul 2014, 15:43

Organic chick there is a saying that if you see a rook on its own its a crow and if you see more than 2 crows together they,re rooks.Your massive amounts of crows are rooks which are not carnivores and wont hurt your chicks.
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Re: Fox & Crows

Postby drfish » 18 Jul 2014, 16:40

That doesn't necessarily apply to Carrion crows (the ones that'll take chicks) though, they are known to group together to feed. Easiest way to determine them is that the Rook has a bald face, whereas the crow is fully feathered.

Carrions are known to cooperate though when making kills. So if there's a few there, it could be that they are plotting something. Cunning little buggers.
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Re: Fox & Crows

Postby subruss » 19 Jul 2014, 10:59

Lindsay wrote:
organic chick wrote: However, the Kite is back!!!


Do kites take chicks? I lost a three-week old a couple of days ago, and we have had a couple of kites hanging round for a few days. I didn't see it being taken, and the buzzards (the usual culprits) haven't bee seen for a bit. I know that kites eat grasshoppers - when OH is combining, they fly level with the cab waiting to swoop. He says it is fantastic to look down on them as they glide beside him.


Yes they will, Basically the kite is like the carrion crow they live on the dead, weak, small, ill and lost, good for the eco system but bad for domestic poultry who have lost a lot of their natural instincts and are normally penned in so cannot act naturally even if they tried.
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Re: Fox & Crows

Postby Lindsay » 20 Jul 2014, 09:33

Thank you subruss. I used to have a wonderful cock who warned the flock of aerial predators, but the ones I have now are useless.

Incidentally, one is a young Leghorn who is not only useless, but seriously confused - if my daughter or I go into his pen, we immediately get the dropped wing/dance treatment, whereas my son gets attacked ...

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Re: Fox & Crows

Postby Hen-Gen » 20 Jul 2014, 12:41

Lindsay wrote:Incidentally, one is a young Leghorn who is not only useless, but seriously confused - if my daughter or I go into his pen, we immediately get the dropped wing/dance treatment, whereas my son gets attacked ...


Thats not confused. Thats heterosexual! 8)
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Re: Fox & Crows

Postby Lindsay » 21 Jul 2014, 06:33

Hen-Gen wrote:Thats not confused. Thats heterosexual! 8)


Very true! But maybe I should have added that he shows no interest in the five gorgeous Leghorn ladies he now lives with :?
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Re: Fox & Crows

Postby organic chick » 21 Jul 2014, 09:04

georget wrote:Organic chick your massive amounts of crows are rooks which are not carnivores and wont hurt your chicks.


That's exactly what I thought originally until we had some RSPB types here who put me right. They actually are crows. And the rooks are the ones that have been nesting on neighbouring chimneys. Not an expert but I bow to those who are. They also identified 5 different types of bats and 30 species of moths including a lovely Hawkshead. Our allotment area and surrounds turned out to be much more diverse than an RSPB reserve the group had bio blitzed. Must be our organic principles!!
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Re: Fox & Crows

Postby PixieDust » 24 Jul 2014, 10:58

We have loads of Jackdaws here. I expect them to be a pest but will keep my eye on them.

Crows, Ravens, Jackdaws, etc., are very special birds to me.

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