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Postby Hen-Gen » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:46 pm

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Picking up a 4 month old boy in August. 15st of muscle (when he grows up) - hope he's friendly! :?
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Re: Back to Black

Postby Fairfax » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:50 pm

How lovely.

How does it work with sheep. Does having a black ram mean you get black girls? Or does the ewe have to be black too? Or is it hit and miss. I know I don't see many black lambs near me.
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Re: Back to Black

Postby Hen-Gen » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:58 pm

In most breeds black is a recessive colour so black lambs appear randomly among flocks of white breeding sheep. However in two breeds, Zwartbles (as above) and Black Welsh Mountains, the mutation is a different one called dominant black. So all the lambs he sires will be black.
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Re: Back to Black

Postby Fairfax » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:02 pm

Thanks Hen-Gen.
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Re: Back to Black

Postby CP » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:43 pm

Is he really that black? Looks like he's been painted!
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Re: Back to Black

Postby manic nonie » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:46 pm

He's a nice lad well done, i hope he is friendly he'll be big :grin: :grin:
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Re: Back to Black

Postby SkyChild » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:10 pm

Oh he's gorgeous! He looks like he's been covered in bootpolish, I've never seen such a black sheep!
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Re: Back to Black

Postby shire horse girl » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:42 pm

He is stunning didn't realise rams weighed so much
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Re: Back to Black

Postby brooksidepoultry » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:31 pm

He's nice, yeah we tend to have a few black crossbreeds in our flock & did have a flock of pure zwarbles too & we would have probably 20-50 black lambs a year out of 300-400 but the breeds like, suffolks, Clun forests & shropshires are all born black & (not as dark as him) but the coats turn white with age x
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Re: Back to Black

Postby Hen-Gen » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:00 am

Its odd that . Your man Adam on Country File has a small flock of Portlands and they're all born fox red. Although you could fill a library with books related to the productive qualities of farm animals its notable how scant the material is on coat colour inheritance.
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Re: Back to Black

Postby brooksidepoultry » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:45 am

Mmm they are nice the portlands x
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Re: Back to Black

Postby Chris Kurzfeld » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:29 am

Very nice boy :grin: . I keep Ryelands - both white and coloured - with them if you breed white to coloured you will always get white but they have to be registered as coloured because they have one coloured parent. White coloured to true coloured can produce both (I have had white and coloured twins) but true cloured to true coloured produces coloured.
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Re: Back to Black

Postby Hen-Gen » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:46 am

Very pretty sheep, Ryelands. Put me in mind of those Kosset Carpet ads from years ago. (Expect you're too young to remember those).
I have two Suffolk X Texel and two Cluns (on order). Might seem extravagant buying a ram for four ewes but:-
1) I've entered into a 'management aggreement' with a neighbour who has 150 Shetlands.
2) Can't resist playing with the genetics, even though they'll end up in my freezer.
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Re: Back to Black

Postby manic nonie » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:48 pm

he it nice, we had some ZW X tex X sufflocks on one of the places i worked they were crackin meat animals and very handlable compared to the mad gimmers (Blackies), I'm normally working with.
the growth from that cross should be really good.
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Re: Back to Black

Postby Chris Kurzfeld » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:44 am

Put me in mind of those Kosset Carpet ads from years ago. (Expect you're too young to remember those).


Unfortunately I am not too young to remember :lol: .

Might seem extravagant buying a ram for four ewes but:-


I did the same 2 years ago - for 3 - I had 2 white coloureds and 1 white ewe and wanted to try and build up a coloured flock. Couldn't find a coloured ram to hire so I bought one - he was a lovely boy and sired some very nice coloured ewes (plus a few rams for the freezer :grin: ). I sold him after 2 years and now have found someone who will hire me hers for this year. I sold my original ewes too then decided what I had left wasn't enough to keep the grass in the paddocks down so now also have 2 Ryeland Xs.
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